Anti-Depressants - Get the Facts - Video

[Sherlene]

(NaturalNews) A 17-year-old former student opened fire near Stuttgart, Germany, killing at least 16 people. The teenager was a former student at a Winnenden school, where he initiated the shooting spree. Three teachers and at least 10 students were killed by his actions.

The media is reporting that Tim Kretschmer, "walked calmly into three classrooms and opened fire, without saying a word." Following the shooting at his school, Tim ran to a psychiatric clinic school and killed an employee there. (Did he have a link to the psychiatric staff members there?)

A day earlier, a man in his mid-30's opened fire in Alabama, killing ten people before he was shot and killed by law enforcement.

The recent school massacre in Germany caused me to say, "I bet the perpetrator was taking anti-depressants(SSRI's)."  The next day, I found an article that confirmed my suspicions. http://www.naturalnews.com/025826.html

Mike Adams, (natural health researcher) recommending visiting this website to view a video on antidepressants (website links below).  I thought it was really interesting. You can also request some free DVDs and information package too from that website.

(If you don't have a fast internet connection you won't be able to see these videos, however, by going to the website, you can order the free DVDs.

part 1  http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-introduction
part 2 http://www.cchr.org/#/book/video/documentaries/psychiatry-making-a-killing-dvd-english
part 3 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-drug-push
part 4 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-disease-mongering
part 5 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-the-experiment
part 6 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-peddling-to-prescribers
part 7 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-pitching-the-public
part 8 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-side-effects
part 9 http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-get-the-facts

Other interesting videos on this subject.
http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/prescription-for-violence

Here are some very short clips from the same website.  Warning - some are disturbing.

http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/home-video
http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/office-visit
http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/prescription

Some of the facts presented reveal under the influence of SSRIs that shockingly violent crimes can be undertaken by previously non-violent people.

• Kip land "Kip" Kinkle, 15 years old, May 21, 1998, Thurston Middle School, Springfield, Ore. Killed his mother and father and two students; wounded 25 others. Psychiatric counseling and drug use: Prozac.

• Shawn Cooper, 15 years old, April 16, 1999, Notus Junior-Senior High School, Notus, Idaho. Fired two gun shots. No one injured or killed. Psychiatric drugs used: "antidepressants."

• Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, 18 and 17 years old, respectively, April 20, 1999, Columbine High School, Littleton, Colo. Twelve students and one teacher killed; 24 others wounded. Shooters commit suicide. Psychiatric drug use: Harris had been prescribed Zoloft and Luvox.

• Thomas "T.J." Solomon, 15 years old, May 20, 1999, Heritage High School, Conyers, Ga. Six wounded. Psychiatric drug use: Prior psychiatric counseling and Ritalin.

• Elizabeth Bush, 14 years old, March 7, 2001, Bishop Neumann High School, Williamsport, Pa. Wounded one student. Psychiatric drug use: "antidepressants."

• Jason Hoffman, 18 years old, March 22, 2001, Granite Hills High School, El Cajon, Ca. Killed one; wounded one. Psychiatric drug use: Celexa and Effexor.

• Cory Baadsgaard, 16 years old, April 15, 2001, Wahluke High School, Mattawa, Wash. Held 23 students and a teacher hostage with a rifle. No injuries or deaths. Psychiatric drug use: Paxil and Effexor.

• John Jason McLaughlin, 15-years old, September 14, 2001, Recori High School, Cold Spring, Minnesota. One killed and 1 wounded.

• Jeff Weise, 16 years old, March 21, 2005, Red Lake High School, Red Indian Reservation, Minn. Killed nine and wounded seven others then committed suicide. Psychiatric drug use: Prozac.

• Michael Carneal, 14 years old, Dec 1, 1997, Heath High School, West Paducah, Ky. Killed three students; wounded five others. Had psychiatric counseling prior to shooting.

• Mitchell Johnson, 13 years old, and Andrew Golden, 11 years old, March 25, 1998, Westside Middle School, Jonesboro, Ark. One teacher, four students killed; 11 wounded. Johnson received psychiatric treatment prior to the shooting.

- Psyched Out: How Psychiatry Sells Mental Illness and Pushes Pills That Kill by Kelly Patricia O'Meara
- Available on Amazon.com

Reports in the media began suggesting that antidepressants might be behind the horrific murders that shook the nation. These stories typically noted that Andrea Yates (Houston bathtub drownings), Kip Kinkel (Jonesboro, Arkansas, shootings), Eric Harris (Columbine school shootings) and Christopher Pittman (South Carolina grandparents murdered) were on or had been on antidepressants. The relationship between violence against others and violence against self is apparent.
- America Fooled: The Truth About Antidepressants, Antipsychotics and How We've Been Deceived by Dr. Timothy Scott
- Available on Amazon.com

Hostility and violence are also mentioned in the FDA-approved labels for some antidepressant drugs. The antidepressants as a group have a dangerous potential to produce abnormal behavior that can culminate in both suicide and violence. The SSRI antidepressants are especially liable to produce extremely irrational and sometimes horrendously violent acts.
- The Anti-Depressant Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, and Luvox by Peter R. Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Despite mountains of evidence, they were avidly denying that antidepressants can cause mayhem, murder, and suicide. From the moment Prozac burst on the scene in 1989, to the start of the FDA hearings on antidepressants in 2004, many stories of antidepressant-induced violence and suicide had been reported in the press. Hundreds more had been sent to the FDA and had even been published in the scientific literature concerning antidepressant-induced "harm to self and others.
- Medication Madness: A Psychiatrist Exposes the Dangers of Mood-Altering Medications by Peter Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

However, mania is by no means the only way antidepressants can induce violence. The SSRI antidepressants, as well as some other antidepressants such as Wellbutrin and Desyrel (trazodone) cause akathisia. In earlier chapters, I described this drug-induced neurological condition that can become a virtual inner torture of irritation and anguish. Akathisia can drive a person toward bizarre and even violent actions. SSRIs can also cause a loosening of inhibition or self-control, leading to unanticipated acts of violence.
- The Anti-Depressant Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, and Luvox by Peter R. Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Many doctors seem to believe that antidepressants will reduce the likelihood of a patient attempting or committing suicide. The labels for antidepressants warn about being careful about suicide but they emphasize that this care is required until the antidepressant can take effect. This falsely implies that antidepressants can reduce the danger of suicide. After reviewing the vast literature and after examining the internal records of several antidepressant makers, it is absolutely clear that antidepressants do not reduce the suicide rate.
- The Anti-Depressant Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, and Luvox by Peter R. Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Andrew Mosholder, the task of investigating the emerging (though it had been around for years) evidence of a link between antidepressants and suicide attempts in children. As he was told to, he did his job and filed his report, but the FDA refused to release it. They also refused to allow him to participate in public hearings on antidepressants that were conducted in February 2004. Why? Our belief is that it is because of his finding that children who take antidepressants are two times more likely to exhibit suicidal behaviors than depressed children who are not given antidepressants.
- The ADHD Fraud: How Psychiatry Makes "Patients" of Normal Children by Fred A. Baughman, Jr., M.D. and Craig Hovey
- Available on Amazon.com

Classic papers dating as far back as the 1930s describe the risk with amphetamine antidepressants. For decades pharmaceutical companies and drug proponents adamantly denied the phenomenon, but by the 1970s, when strict limitations were imposed on prescribing amphetamines, their ability to trigger suicide and violence had been firmly established. In the 1980s, a similar phenomenon was recognized with tricyclic antidepressants, the class of drugs used between the fall of amphetamine antidepressants in the 1970s and the rise of serotonin boosters in the 1990s.
- Prozac Backlash: Overcoming the Dangers of Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and Other Antidepressants with Safe, Effective Alternatives by Joseph Glenmullen, M.D.
- Available on Amazon.com

On July 16, 2005, BMJ(formerly known as the British Medical Journal), in a major review article ("Efficacy of antidepressants in Adults"), summarized the research on the long-term outcome of antidepressants this way: "Antidepressants have not been convincingly shown to affect the long-term outcome of depression or suicide rates." Today antidepressants are increasingly used by Americans who are not severely depressed, and they are being prescribed on a long-term basis. The previously mentioned 2000 ABC News poll reported that 46 percent of antidepressant users had taken them for a year or more.
- Surviving America's Depression Epidemic: How to Find Morale, Energy, and Community in a World Gone Crazy by Bruce E. Levine
- Available on Amazon.com

The cases and scientific evidence presented in this book should convincingly demonstrate that antidepressants cause suicide. Given that psychiatric drugs can cause suicide, is there evidence that any of them actually reduce suicide? The answer is no. Particularly in the case of the antidepressants, drug companies and their paid researchers have tried for years to show that these drugs reduce the suicide rate, but no compelling evidence has been forthcoming.
- Medication Madness: A Psychiatrist Exposes the Dangers of Mood-Altering Medications by Peter Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Given that this conservative diagnostic manual makes clear that antidepressants cause mania and that mania can produce goal-directed criminal acts, anger, violence, depression, and suicide, no physician should doubt that antidepressants cause acts of violence or suicide. Unfortunately, despite clinical experience, scientific data, and a consensus of opinion among experts, many doctors refuse to believe that their medications are sometimes driving patients to crime, violence, and suicide.
- The Anti-Depressant Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, and Luvox by Peter R. Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Adults whose symptoms worsen while being treated with antidepressants, including an increase in suicidal thinking or behavior, should be evaluated by their health-care professional. The data convinced even the FDA hardliners. Belatedly, the agency issued warnings about suicidal thinking and antidepressants. These cautions came far too late to prevent many terrible tragedies over nearly 2 decades. As difficult as it has been for psychiatrists and FDA officials to contemplate, people taking SSRI-type antidepressants are sometimes preoccupied with thoughts of suicide or homicide.
- Best Choices From the People's Pharmacy by Joe Graedon, M.S. and Teresa Graedon, Ph.D.
- Available on Amazon.com

Adults in Taiwan and Korea, where antidepressants are rarely used, have very low rates of major depression. Adults in America, Canada and France, where antidepressants are commonly prescribed, have much higher rates. Are western people born inherently inferior to Asian people mentally; that is, more prone to develop a mental disease? In 1950, when no antidepressants existed, the suicide rates for children and young people were less than half the rates for those same age groups in 2000 despite dramatic growth in antidepressant use among America's youth.
- America Fooled: The Truth About Antidepressants, Antipsychotics and How We've Been Deceived by Dr. Timothy Scott
- Available on Amazon.com

Perhaps the most dangerous misconception is that the seriously depressed can better be prevented from suicide by antidepressants than any other therapeutic technique. Not only is there no such proof, but SSRI antidepressants actually increase suicidal thoughts and behavior for some patients. In 2004, the FDA ordered that antidepressants carry a "black box" warning, the government's strongest warning, alerting consumers to the risk of increased suicidal thoughts and behavior among children and teens taking them.
- Surviving America's Depression Epidemic: How to Find Morale, Energy, and Community in a World Gone Crazy by Bruce E. Levine
- Available on Amazon.com

The availability of graduated doses, 5- and 10-milligram pills, would have undermined this advantage over all other antidepressants available at the time. Likewise, had the FDA decided to add a warning on suicide and violence to the label of antidepressants, this would have necessitated closer monitoring of patients, markedly reducing Prozac's unique appeal for primary-care clinicians. Another memo makes clear that dosing problems were brought to Lilly's attention again not long after the drug went on the market.
- Prozac Backlash: Overcoming the Dangers of Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and Other Antidepressants with Safe, Effective Alternatives by Joseph Glenmullen, M.D.
- Available on Amazon.com

As this book goes to press, a research team led by Kirsch (2008) has once again produced a meta-analysis of the scientific literature demonstrating the ineffectiveness of antidepressants. It is a sad, ironic, and tragic tale: It's impossible to prove that antidepressants actually relieve depression but it's relatively easy to demonstrate that they can worsen depression and cause mania, murder, and suicide. If my colleagues wanted to be scientific about it, they would call them "depressants" rather than antidepressants, and take them off the market.
- Medication Madness: A Psychiatrist Exposes the Dangers of Mood-Altering Medications by Peter Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Paxil is not substantially different from Prozac, Zoloft, Luvox, Celexa, Effexor, Wellbutrin, or any other of the newer antidepressants in its capacity to cause overstimulation and a variety of other dangerous adverse mental reactions. If Paxil causes suicide in adults, so do the other antidepressants. As already described, the FDA has mandated clear warnings that are identical for the drugs. But because it is so short-acting and potent, Paxil probably poses a more frequent and more severe risk than some of the other antidepressants.
- Medication Madness: A Psychiatrist Exposes the Dangers of Mood-Altering Medications by Peter Breggin
- Available on Amazon.com

Madhukar Trivedi, a clinical psychiatrist who is the director of the Mood Disorders Research Program at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical school, has been researching the effectiveness of using exercise to augment antidepressants. In 2006 he published a pilot study showing that patients who weren't responding to antidepressants lowered their scores on a common depression test by 10.4 points on a 17-point scale -- a huge drop -- after twelve weeks of exercise. All seventeen patients were deeply depressed and had been taking antidepressants for at least four months.
- Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain by John J. Ratey, MD
- Available on Amazon.com

Children using venlafaxine (Effexor) -- a serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (SNRI) -- had a 2.3 times greater risk of suicide attempts compared with no drug treatment at all. Tricyclic antidepressants were also significantly linked with suicide attempts.
- Bottom Line's Health Breakthroughs 2007 by Bottom Line Health
- Available on Amazon.com

They divided the people into two groups -- those who had received antidepressants and those who had not. They found that children between the ages of six and 18 who were taking antidepressants were 1.5 times more likely to attempt suicide and 15 times more likely to die in that attempt than individuals not treated with an antidepressant.
- Bottom Line's Health Breakthroughs 2007 by Bottom Line Health
- Available on Amazon.com

Express Scripts reported in 2003 that in a five-year period (1998-2002) the use of antidepressants in children increased from 1.6 per 100 to 2.4 per 100 -- an adjusted annual increase of 9.2 percent, with the fastest-growing segment of users being preschoolers (newborns to 5 years old). As a follow up to the FDA's revelations about the adverse effects associated with antidepressants, Express Scripts updated its study, reporting "the prevalence of antidepressant use in children continued to rise through the first half of 2004.
- Psyched Out: How Psychiatry Sells Mental Illness and Pushes Pills That Kill by Kelly Patricia O'Meara
- Available on Amazon.com

Still, though, there is the matter of the 2004 public hearings, where once again, due to the public outcry, the FDA was forced to revisit the issue of suicidality and SSRIs due to an ever-increasing number of claims that the mind-altering antidepressants (including Prozac) were causing suicidal thoughts and other harmful behaviors. What does Breggin conclude? "Lilly continued to hide the documents and the data at the 2004 FDA hearings on pediatric suicidality caused by antidepressants. At the hearings Tom Laughren of the FDA said that he knew of no data linking SSRIs to suicide or hostility.
- Psyched Out: How Psychiatry Sells Mental Illness and Pushes Pills That Kill by Kelly Patricia O'Meara
- Available on Amazon.com

An estimated 500,000 grade-school children are now taking antidepressants. In the teen years, this high rate of depression translates into a tragically high number of suicides and attempted suicides. The teen suicide rate has increased threefold since 1960, making it the third leading cause of death among adolescents.
- The Omega Diet: The Lifesaving Nutritional Program Based on the Diet of the Island of Crete by Artemis P. Simopoulos, M.D., and Jo Robinson
- Available on Amazon.com

But a very well-kept secret, revealed by considering all the research, is that the actual rate of death from suicide is higher in patients who take the new antidepressants than in those who take the older tricyclics. Even more important, twice as many people taking the new antidepressants successfully committed suicide than did the people who took placebos.
- The Omega Diet: The Lifesaving Nutritional Program Based on the Diet of the Island of Crete by Artemis P. Simopoulos, M.D., and Jo Robinson
- Available on Amazon.com

And it is here that even those who continue to believe in the usefulness of antidepressants overwhelmingly fault the industry. The most charitable read it as a case of fragmented decision making and regulatory numbness. Others assert that it was all about maintaining sales. Whatever you believe about motivation, you can be certain that every major SSRI maker fudged when it came to reporting publicly the rate of suicide, suicidal ideation, and violence associated with use of their drug.
- Generation Rx: How Prescription Drugs are Altering American Lives, Minds, and Bodies by Greg Critser
- Available on Amazon.com

What's more, for almost all the drugs, except Prozac, there was no evidence from the clinical trials in children that the antidepressants worked any better at relieving depression than a placebo or dummy pill. British authorities moved in late 2003 to try to stop the drugs being prescribed to children. A year later authorities in the U.S. demanded that companies add a "black box" warning to antidepressant labels -- more than a decade after the drugs had first appeared on the market.
- Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All into Patients by Ray Moynihan and Alan Cassels
- Available on Amazon.com

According to independent analysis of the clinical trials -- almost all of which have been funded by their manufacturers -- on average the advantages of these antidepressants over placebo or dummy pills are modest at best, yet their side effects can include sexual problems, severe withdrawal, reactions, and an apparent increase in the risk of suicidal behavior among the young. Somewhat ironically, part of the marketing of these new antidepressants has played directly on fears that suicide could result if a young person's depression was left untreated.
- Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All into Patients by Ray Moynihan and Alan Cassels
- Available on Amazon.com
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The Non-Drug Solution (According to Dr Ann Blake-Tracy, psychiartrist PhD)


Pure, therapeutic quality essential oils can be helpful to let a person who desires it, to withdraw very slowly from anti-depressants.  Dr Ann Blake Tracy (psychologist, PhD) outlines this process in a book called "Prozac - Panacea or Pandora?" p 352 and 353. It involves an extremely gradual reduction in doses of anti-depressants and using essential oils to address the depressive condition. A quote from the book in the chapter Solutions:
"Aromatherapy is the use of natural oils from botanicals, rather than chemical agents, in order to produce an effect upon the limbic system... Between 1920-1930 Italian scientists conducted studies on the psychological effects of essential oils.  A study published in 1922 by Dr Renato Cayola and Dr Giovanni Garri reported both calming and stimulating effects upon the nervous system with the use of various oils, along with their bacteria destroying capabilities.  Pablo Rovesti from the Uniersity of Milan treated patients for depression with a combination of jasmine, sandalwood, orange blossom, verbena and lemon oils.  Fro anxiety or hysteria he suggested bergamont, neroli, cypress, orange leaf, lime, rose violet leaves and marjoram. Patchouli was used for many years in sanitariums to prevent psychotic reactions.  Bergamot is a standard recommendation for manic depression.  A combination of lemon, juniper berry and cypress are used on the feet, over the kidneys and under the arms to assist in pulling foreign chemicals out of the body.  The oils are applied to the skin after being mixed with a carrier oil such as grapeseed oil or almond oil.  Or they are pumped through a diffuser, similar to an air freshener into a room where the patient can inhale them and recuperate in the comfort of their own home.  Frenchphysician Dr Jean Valnet became interested in Gattefosse's work and began using oils for disinfecting and healing during World War 2.  In 1964 he wrote a book entitled AROMATHERAPIE; TRAITEMENT DES MALADIES PAR LES ESSENCES DES PLANTS.  In it he too makes an impassioned plea "for curtailing our use of dangerous chemical therapies and antibiotics, offering demonstrable proof of the vital power of plant medicines to prevent and heal disease and strengthen the immune system"  It is an excellent book for professionals." p 352-3.

The author continues by reporting medical studies on what needs to be done to safely withdraw from using the drugs, but repeatedly warns that it is NOT safe to withdraw from the anti-depressant abruptly, even with the use of essential oils. 

If I were taking SSRI's I would not attempt to withdraw from them without the assistance of someone knowledgeable in the use of essential oils and other treatments in Dr Tracy's book. I would also find a doctor/health professional who was supportive of my efforts and who could monitor my physical condition throughout the withdrawal process.

Dr Tracy wrote information about SSRIs below.

http://www.drugawareness.org/Archives/Miscellaneous/tracyfda.html
Dr. Ann Blake Tracy's Testimony before the FDA, September 13, 2004

"I am Ann Blake Tracy, PhD, head of the International Coalition for Drug Awareness (www.drugawareness.org). I am the author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? - Our Serotonin Nightmare and have testified in court cases involving antidepressants for 12 1/2 years. The last 15 years of my life have been devoted full time to researching and writing about SSRI antidepressants.

Research on serotonin has been clear from the very beginning that the most damaging thing that could be done to the serotonin system would be to impair one's ability to metabolize serotonin. Yet that is exactly how SSRI antidepressants exert their effects.

For decades research has shown that impairing serotonin metabolism will produce migraines, hot flashes, pains around the heart, difficulty breathing, a worsening of bronchial complaints, tension and anxiety which appear from out of nowhere, depression, suicide - especially very violent suicide, hostility, violent crime, arson, substance abuse, psychosis, mania, organic brain disease, autism, anorexia, reckless driving, Alzheimer's, impulsive behavior with no concern for punishment, and argumentative behavior.

How anyone ever thought it would be "therapeutic" to chemically induce these reactions is beyond me. Yet, these reactions are exactly what we have witnessed in our society over the past decade and a half as a result of the widespread use of these drugs.

In fact we even have a whole new vocabulary as a result with terms such as "road rage," "suicide by cop," "murder/suicide," "going postal," "false memory syndrome," "school shooting," "bi-polar" - every third person you meet anymore - along with the skyrocketing rates of antidepressant-induced diabetes and hypoglycemia.

Can you remember two decades ago when depressed people used to slip away quietly to kill themselves rather than killing everyone around them and then themselves as they do while taking SSRI antidepressants?

A study out of the University of Southern California in 1996 looked at a group of mutant mice in an experiment that had gone terribly wrong. These genetically engineered mice were the most violent creatures they had ever witnessed. They were born lacking the MAO-A enzyme that metabolizes serotonin. As a result their brains were awash in serotonin. This excess serotonin is what the researchers determined was the cause for this extreme violence. Antidepressants produce the same end result as they inhibit the metabolism of serotonin.

These are extremely dangerous drugs that should be banned as similar drugs have been banned in the past.

As a society we once thought LSD and PCP to be miracle medications with large margins of safety in humans. We have never seen drugs so similar to LSD and PCP as these SSRI antidepressants. All of these drugs produce dreaming during periods of wakefulness. It is believed that the high serotonin levels over stimulate the brain stem leading to a lack of muscle paralysis during sleep thus allowing the patient to act out the dreams or nightmares they are having. The world witnessed that clearly in the Zoloft-induced murder-suicide of comedian Phil Hartman and his wife, Brynn.

Connecticut witnessed the Prozac-induced case of Kelly Silk several years ago. This young mother attacked her family with a knife, then set the house on fire killing all but her 8 year old daughter who ran to the neighbors. As she stood bleeding and screaming for help she explained, "Help! My mommy is having a nightmare!"

Out of the mouths of babes we will understand these nightmares for what they are. She understood that this was something her mother would do ONLY in a nightmare, never in reality.

This is known as a REM Sleep Behavior Disorder. In the past it was known mainly as a drug withdrawal state, but the largest sleep facility in the country has reported that 86% of the cases they are diagnosing are patients on antidepressants.

Because this was known in the past as a condition manifesting mainly in drug withdrawal you should see how dangerous the withdrawal state from these drugs will prove to be. That is why it is so critical to make sure patients are weaned EXTREMELY slowly so as to avoid ANY chance of going into a withdrawal state."

There is so much information available.  Sorry for the long post, but I think the severity of these drug side-effects warrants it.