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 on: May 23, 2010, 05:48:14 AM 
Started by Thadsette - Last post by Thadsette
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 on: May 03, 2010, 06:57:42 PM 
Started by Truthseeker - Last post by Sherlene
Am very interested in reading further and studying it.  I know that Ellen White said that the Sabbath would be preached more fully, so I have an open mind at this stage, but it's just not educated enough yet to examine in this new information.  It certainly does seem to be a possibility and I agree about the other calendars being far from God's intended markers of time.

Hope to get a chance to look more into it soon.

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 on: May 03, 2010, 10:30:37 AM 
Started by Truthseeker - Last post by Truthseeker
Then if one is not convinced of time by design of the creator, Gen 1:14 (just to start ) and the ancients did not have the Julian /Gregorian calendars and no time pieces such as watches or clocks then how did they know when was a feast day or the Sabbath due, and I don't believe that the old sun dial would have been a sufficient time piece for this purpose, then there had to have been an efficient time use full system some where? and of course William Miller would not have been able to calculate his time frames using any other system than time by design of the Lunar / Solar system of calculation.I can assure you without hesitation that the Gregorian Saturday (Saturn's/Satan's) day is not the sabbath day of the Lord our God.

LOL Truthseeker

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 on: May 02, 2010, 03:55:51 PM 
Started by Truthseeker - Last post by Sherlene
Thanks TruthSeeker for this info.
A few months ago I started reading the 3 months in a row and the calendar articles on WLC.  I know that I enjoyed reading the various articles on the calendar of different countries, however I was not convinced of the subject of the lunar Sabbath at that time.  Sadly my opportunities for further study has come to a close for the time being, but at the first opportunity, I'm going to continue my search into this subject.  In the meantime, I  have asked others to do so also.  When I've had a proper chance to study this topic of the lunar Sabbath, I'll write back here with my thoughts.

Thanks for the post very much.

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 on: May 02, 2010, 08:47:20 AM 
Started by Truthseeker - Last post by Truthseeker
In Amos 5:27, the reference to Israel’s apostasy into Saturn worship ends with: “saith the Lord, whose name is The God of hosts.”  The word “hosts”(42) refers to the sun, moon and stars, the celestial bodies which Israel wanted to worship, rather than worshipping the Creator of the celestial bodies.
The fact that Israel at times worshipped either on Saturn’s day or later by a continuous weekly cycle is no evidence that the modern Saturn’s day (Saturday) is the Sabbath of Creation.  Rather, the accumulation of scriptural and historical evidence supports the interpretation of this act of Israel as being one of gross apostasy and moral rebellion.  It is not coincidence that the seventh-day of the modern planetary week, the day on which the majority of sabbatarians worship, is none other than Saturn’s day. 
Too long have Jews and Saturday Sabbatarians looked pityingly or contemptuously upon Roman Catholics and Sunday-keeping Protestants.  Saturday Sabbatarians who have leveled charges of hypocrisy, intellectual dishonesty and inconsistency against those who worship on the first day of the week, are now learning the truth of the Biblical principle: “Do not judge lest you be judged.  For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
The truth is that worship on the seventh-day of a pagan calendar does not direct one’s worship to the Creator.  When one worships on Saturday, he/she is showing allegiance to the god of that day, the cruelest, most blood-thirsty of all the gods: Saturn.  The Lord God of Heaven is “merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgressions and sin.”  In kindness, “the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” The call of repentance going forth today is to return to true Biblical worship on the genuine Sabbath, calculated by Heaven’s ordained system of time-keeping: the luni-solar calendar established at Creation.And I keep saying and will once again direct you to www.wlc.com why! cause this is a huge subject start with 3 months in a row then of course look up the rest of the articles and e courses
Perhaps this may spark some interest to study, one can only pray so! however, I will not hold my breath
LOL truthseeker

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 on: April 25, 2010, 11:38:58 AM 
Started by AndrewG - Last post by Truthseeker
Oh how serious is this subject, Sister white said.
Ellen White: "At the commencement of the time of trouble, we were filled with the Holy Ghost as we went forth and proclaimed the Sabbath more fully. This enraged the churches and nominal Adventists, as they could not refute the Sabbath truth.

What! proclaimed more fully? but don't we already know all about the sabbath what on earth did Sister White mean?, what could ENRAGE S.D.A's

Sir Isaac Newton discovered it in the late 1600's. The Roman Catholic Church discovered it shortly thereafter. William Miller and Samuel Snow discovered it in 1844. Grace Amadon and the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference Research Committee discovered it in 1938. What did they discover? what they discovered and what the S.D.A. Church has known the truth of since 1938 and still today the keep the Gregorian weekly Saturday and have the affront to call it the Sabbath,
 
They found that it was impossible to harmonize the "Twelve Criteria" of Christ's crucifixion date with the Julian/Gregorian calendar. ("Criteria" – a standard, rule or test on which a judgment or decision can be based.) However, all of them found the Twelve Criteria fit perfectly using the Creator's luni-solar calendar, the one God designed at creation to rule time (see Genesis 1:14-19). The Creator's calendar utilizes the dual action of both sun and moon working together to determine days, weeks, months and years. As a result of this discovery, the Roman Catholic Church applied only five, somewhat skewed criteria, to an altogether different year (A.D.33) of their Julian/Gregorian calendar so they could still have a Sunday resurrection. William Miller and Samuel Snow, as a result of their discovery, were able to connect all the dots (dates) of the 2300 day/year prophecy. Grace Amadon and the GC Committee documented their 10 year research with over 5000 pages to and from astronomers all over the world, and presented their findings to the General Conference President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
It is important to understand the twelve criteria of Christ's crucifixion date because these same criteria establish when the true seventh-day Sabbath occurs – and it is not on Saturday. The prophecies of Daniel pinpoint A.D. 31 as the year Christ was crucified, so that is the year under consideration in this study.

Traditionally, it has been said that since the dawn of Creation 6000 years ago, successive weeks, the cycle of six days followed by a Sabbath rest, has never been broken to this very day. In addition, it has been said that our seven-day cycle is a tribute to a seven-day creation week, rather than the popular evolutionary process of millions of years. After all, who can argue this point when the Jews still keep this same unbroken weekly cycle today, as well as a Saturday Sabbath? But do they?
One of the secrets that unlock this mystery lies in the "twelve criteria" that identify the true crucifixion and resurrection days.
Why is the crucifixion week so important to understand?
The reason that this last week in the life of Christ Yahshua is so very important to all who are seeking truth, is that these consecutive few days clarify in detail, at the very pinnacle of time, the harmonious connection of God's appointed history; past, present and future. Our Creator's ordained system of time keeping, and His alone, bears the seal of the cross of Christ. This makes it impossible for man to alter or manipulate His historic and prophetic calendar. Therefore, this study aims to expose the truth that has too long been hidden. The goal is to identify a calendar that harmonizes all the "twelve criteria" that act as the Creator's ordained GPS in the sky to pinpoint the exact year, day and hour on His true calendar system.
From the days of Ezra and Nehemiah to the present time, a long series of historical and astronomical source materials now offer a complete picture of the new moon and her phases. Every detail of her performance is described either on tablets, stone, or parchment, or in books of ancient and modern astronomy. Thus has the way been prepared for effective chronological study with reference to Jewish luni-solar time, and its bearing upon the death-year of Christ. (Grace Amadon, Collection 154, Center for Adventist Research, Andrews University, Berrien Springs, Michigan.)

He shall insult the Most High, he shall torment/wear out the holy ones of the Most High, and he shall attempt to change the calendar and the ordinance. Daniel 7:25 (Knox translation, 20th Century.)
Sabbath and New Moon (Rosh Hodesh), both periodically recur in the course of the year. The New Moon is still, and the Sabbath originally was, dependent upon the lunar cycle. Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 410.
If the evidence born out in this study is true, then successive weeks as we have known them on the Julian/Gregorian calendar "have been broken" since the time of creation. Secondly, Saturday as we know it today can not be the true seventh-day Sabbath of Yahuwah. If this is true, and if you are a truth seeker, would it not be a real joy to discover the true seventh-day Sabbath of our Creator?
And the times of this ignorance God winked at. . . . Acts 17:30
Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it . . . . ‘Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts . . . .' Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:1, 7, 11-13
While this study only scratches the surface of this important and weighty subject, you will be able to see for yourself the discrepancies between the two calendars so For more on this vital truth go to www.wlc.com and begin with the study 3 months in a row

These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. Acts 17:10-11
LOL truthseeker




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 on: April 21, 2010, 10:11:38 AM 
Started by Sherlene - Last post by Sherlene
 :) LOL.  I can just hear the chief saying, "Never mind, Max." 

And in the vaccine lab, someone else is saying, "Zis is KAOS! Ve don't admit we have viruses in our vaccines here!"




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 on: April 20, 2010, 04:21:55 PM 
Started by Sherlene - Last post by AndrewG
lol "missed it by that much" :D

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 on: April 19, 2010, 06:04:28 PM 
Started by Sherlene - Last post by Sherlene
Hi Truthseeker
Thanks for the info.

I can just imagine Agent Maxwell Smart trying to explain this 'accident' away......   "Would you believe that the pig DNA got into the vaccine while the pigs were being sacrificed for science and some tissue accidentally splashed into the test tube????  No????  What about the lab vaccine-developer-scientist who didn't wash his hands after eating bacon rashers????   No????   Well, would you believe the pig DNA fell into the test tube as the pigs were flying overhead??????? 

I just can't wait for the official explanation, but somehow, I don't think it's going to be as funny as those we might expect to hear from Agent Maxwell Smart.

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 on: April 19, 2010, 08:08:47 AM 
Started by Sherlene - Last post by Truthseeker
What can I add but lets hear the truth always.
How about this one....they continue to poison us.
The FDA Shuts Down Common Infant Vaccine After Startling Discovery
Posted by Dr. Mercola | April 17 2010
“U.S. federal health authorities recommended … that doctors suspend using Rotarix, one of two vaccines licensed in the U.S. against rotavirus, saying the vaccine is contaminated with material from a pig virus,” CNN reports.
The Rotarix vaccine, which is made by GlaxoSmithKline and was approved by the FDA in 2008, has already been given to about 1 million U.S. children along with 30 million worldwide. The vaccine was found to contain DNA from porcine circovirus 1.
“The FDA learned about the contamination after an academic research team using a novel technique to look for viruses in a range of vaccines found the material in GlaxoSmithKline's product and told the company,” FDA Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told CNN.
Sources:
   CNN March 22, 2010
One million U.S. children, and about 30 million worldwide, have already received GlaxoSmithKline’s Rotarix vaccine. Now a research team has discovered it is contaminated with “a substantial amount” of DNA from a pig virus.
What is pig virus DNA doing in a vaccine intended to prevent rotavirus disease, which causes severe diarrhea and dehydration?
It’s anybody’s guess, although CNN reported that GlaxoSmitthKline detected the substance in the cell bank and the seed used to make the vaccine, “suggesting its presence from the early stages of vaccine development.”
It is actually common for vaccines to contain various animal matter, including foreign animal tissues containing genetic material (DNA/RNA), but even FDA Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told CNN:
"It [Pig virus DNA] should not be in this vaccine product and we want to understand how it got there.
It's not an easy call and we spent many long hours debating the pros and cons but, because we have an alternative product and because the background rates of this disease are not so severe in this country, we felt that the judicious thing to do was to take a pause, to really ask the critical questions about what this material was doing in the vaccine, how it got there."
For more info from Dr. Mercola on this subject, go to this web site
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/current.aspx

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